Can Mesh Anchors be Removed

With so much controversy out there about which doctor can remove what and women who are adamant about certain things, I find it very frustrating to deal with it and decided to set the record straight once and for all.

I was told a long time ago about the arms/anchors on various mesh. I knew not every type has them, but because there are so many on the market from long ago and even more that have been introduced as ‘new’ ones, it is all very confusing. I can’t spend every minute of the day and night research all that have been on the market and all the news ones that are now being pushed, so to clarified what can be done I decided to ask a source who I completely trust.

First we all know by now that Jane Akre has doctors on her site that pay to advertise. This way they get a good foothold in your final settlement and most women have no clue what it will REALLY cost them at the end of this. They are usually told it will cost a nominal fee, but when they get the settlement money it will only be then when they know the true cost. Doctors especially surgeons do NOT work for nominal fees so you should be aware that when your final pay out happens, you may be shocked.

I have tried in the past to warn women that there really is no regulation to keep loan sharks and anyone else from taking everything that is left, after lawyers get their share followed by your insurance, Medicaid and Medicare. I have always stated that after women receive their final payment, most will be very angry at the result and honestly I can’t say as I blame anyone. To be ruined for the rest of your life, lose everything you have and often those you love is bad enough, let alone winding up with nothing after waiting years, is enough to make everyone go crazy. This is why I continue with this blog giving women information especially those who have not had mesh installed as yet. Believe me nothing is worth what happens to your body and your lifestyle and you will NEVER be properly compensated unless all women receive around two million dollars each. Don’t be fooled by the large advertised settlements because there is an appeal process where anything can change and few women are privy to going to court to tell what has happened to them.

Two millions dollars would probably mean after everything women would wind up with 1/4th or 1/3rd at the end and perhaps will have enough money to be cared for, or for any future problems. To wind up losing everything including lifetime savings is disgusting, but that is what will happen to many women. Top this with the terrible people who want a constant donations or a final cut out of your payout, it is quite disgusting. Many women believe as I do, that Jane Akre will receive a final payout from lawyers she works for at the end of the settlement and I can tell you why I believe this is true. When I asked her what she was going to receive at the end of this, I was kicked off Facebook by her few followers. My daughter had already asked her this same question and she was kicked off a support group run by Jane. No answer yet and she still seems to have more insight at final payout time than anyone else. Why is that? Does this mean she is in the pocket of lawyers? Only you can decide this.

Now back to the anchor debate. Whenever I dig for info but don’t know key words and find it is taking many hours and I still don’t find what I need, I send Dr. Raz a short to the point email. He is always gracious and replies in a short and precise manner. Then I can keep researching until I understand more and I give you the link. So this is my answer about anchors and mesh by the best in the world. You should know I informed Dr. Raz I wanted to write a blog to clarify this for all the women in the world. I asked him because he is foremost in mesh removal and has removed every type out there. In fact I am sure he himself has lost count of the amount of surgeries he has done.

The reason I asked him was because a woman on Facebook was saying she was in a lot of pain and I answered that perhaps it was because she had more mesh in her. I stated she could find out at UCLA and it is possible the anchors were left in. She was furious and said she had the best doctor out there and that he said it can’t all be removed and Dr. Raz was a liar. I took great exception to that but did not want to get into a confrontation with her so suggested she go for consult with Dr. Raz and ask him herself. She does not want to do that, repeating it was all a lie.

So I dropped Dr. Raz a short note and told him what her doctor had said. This was his answer. “He is wrong… all the mesh can be removed…anchors are present only in the Miniarc or TVT secure type of mesh. The rest don’t have anchors” You have to know Dr. Raz and been his patient to understand that his replies are always short and to the point. This is because he has hundreds of emails to answer and he does it in-between surgeries, conferences and his work on biofilms. So he states his answer based on exactly what you ask which I always appreciate he answers me.

So now you may wonder what secure mesh slings are out there. Here is the first article I found and I am giving you some of the highlights but you have to do the work and search for your own to know exactly how it was made and how it is meant to go in the body. To do this simply put the name of the sling and patent information in Google. It may take a few tries, but if you don’t know what is in you, you won’t know how much trouble it is to come out.

There are many women in social media who think that all you need to do is go to the same doctor they went to and all will be well. However unless they speak to hundreds of women like I have they honestly don’t have a clue. They don’t get every detail such as how a woman is coping with bowel issues. Is nerve damage present and so much more. If there are already serious side effects, it makes sense to go to someone with the most skills. However the choice is always up to the woman herself.

Do doctors lie? Yes most of us have experienced this fact and it is very hard to deal with. In the end you have to get passed it and if you are still in a lot of pain search deeper for the answer and find out if you still have mesh in your body for SURE! Now read on.

At one point, nearly 40 companies were producing nearly 100 vaginal mesh products. Many of these implants caused complications in women, who filed lawsuits.

Drug maker Johnson & Johnson was eager to jump into the emerging mesh market and created a new mesh product line through its subsidiary, Ethicon Inc. Ethicon was charged with developing “easy-to-use” surgical mesh kits. These kits provided doctors with pre-cut mesh and the tools needed for the implant procedure.

Surgeons embraced the convenient new kits. They quickly became the preferred treatment for prolapse and incontinence. Ethicon’s Gynecare brands were believed to be superior to traditional surgery, but doctors had many more complications than they expected. The surgical mesh was difficult to implant, and complaints of severe post-surgery complications were common.

In June 2012, amid mounting legal pressure and growing concern from the FDA, Ethicon announced that it would no longer manufacture and distribute vaginal mesh products. However, both Ethicon and J&J have refused to call the decision a recall. Because of the injuries caused by these products, over 25,400 lawsuits have been filed against Ethicon and J&J.

We all know since 2012 lawsuits have risen in number and more women are coming forward every day. I no longer keep up with how many women are affected by mesh because every day more women are discovering their health issues after many years are all because of mesh.

Now here is more from that link and it may help you understand your mesh and how it is anchored. Then Google your type and find the image of exactly how it is anchored in the body.

Gynecare Prolift Kit

J&J started selling the Gynecare Prolift Kit for prolapse treatment in 2005 without marketing approval from the FDA. The FDA scolded J&J for breaking the rules, but approved the Prolift anyway in 2008.

Gynecare TVT Secur

The Gynecare TVT Secure was the first mini bladder sling used in the United States. Instead of using needles, the U-shaped TVT Secure has built-in blades for attaching the mesh. However, the TVT Secur is more likely to loosen after surgery.

Gynecare Prosima Pelvic Floor Repair System

J&J tried to perfect the mini bladder sling with the Gynecare Prosima Kit. It uses slits cut with scissors to implant the mesh, instead of needles. A tiny balloon is then placed on top of the anchored mesh and inflated to support organs after surgery. The balloon is removed 24 hours after the operation. Because of the way it is attached, this mesh is useful only if incontinence is caused by organs dropping to the back of the vagina; it is likely to fail if organs prolapse toward the front.

Gynecare Prolift + M Kit

In another effort to avoid patient complaints of vaginal scarring and perforation J&J created the Gynecare Prolift +M to treat prolapse. It was the first surgical mesh in the United States to use plastic fibers that could be partially absorbed by the body. This mesh isn’t as dense as the Prolift, and it has larger holes that are supposed to help patients heal after surgery. The mesh also resists folding and wrinkling. Despite J&J’s efforts, the Prolift + M eroded and shrank, just like many of its other mesh brands.

Bard Medical Transvaginal Mesh Products

Like Johnson & Johnson, Bard’s Medical brands were approved under the 510(k) process. Bard even outsourced the clinical testing for its Alyte Y-Mesh device, relying on data from a 2010 European survey of 17 surgeons to get the brand approved by the FDA. Bard makes transvaginal mesh kits for both prolapse and incontinence.

Almost 11,000 patients who received Bard transvaginal mesh have already filed lawsuits against the company for injuries related to the products. These women suffered from erosion, organ perforation, nerve damage, migrated mesh and infection caused by Bard’s brands.

Coloplast Transvaginal Mesh Products

Coloplast markets mesh products for repair of prolapse and incontinence. As of June 2015, the company is still facing almost 2,000 lawsuits, which have been consolidated in a multidistrict litigation (MDL) in the U.S. District Court for the Southern District of West Virginia. The patients say Coloplast’s mesh products caused serious injury. In 2014, the Danish company offered $16 million to settle about 400 suits.

Endo Pharmaceuticals/ American Medical Systems’ Transvaginal Mesh Products

American Medical Systems made mesh for both stress urinary incontinence and pelvic organ prolapse throughout the 2000s. In 2011, the company was purchased by Endo Pharmaceuticals. Some patients are suing both Endo and American Medical Systems to recover medical costs from injuries sustained from their transvaginal mesh products. Removal and revision surgeries for American Medical Systems transvaginal mesh brands happen frequently. Endo argued it could be sued for the actions of its subsidiary. However, by 2015, it had already paid close to $900 million to settle AMS lawsuits.

Boston Scientific Transvaginal Mesh Products

Boston Scientific is facing over 16,400 lawsuits over its mesh and incontinence products. Like the other manufacturers Boston Scientific’s brands, injured many patients when the faulty mesh eroded and punctured organs. The company has stated it still believes transvaginal mesh is an important treatment for incontinence and pelvic organ prolapse. Boston Scientific’s revenue was $7.6 billion in 2011, and transvaginal mesh sales made up less than 5 percent of the company’s revenue.

Coloplast Transvaginal Mesh Products

Coloplast markets mesh products for repair of prolapse and incontinence. As of June 2015, the company is still facing almost 2,000 lawsuits, which have been consolidated in a multidistrict litigation (MDL) in the U.S. District Court for the Southern District of West Virginia. The patients say Coloplast’s mesh products caused serious injury. In 2014, the Danish company offered $16 million to settle about 400 suits.

On this site you can read about all the types (names) of mesh that are now being sued and believe me when new ones come out it takes a while for the amount of women to come forward and report complications to the FDA before the FDA puts out a warning and new lawsuits are filed. Read more here

It is important to understand that most so-called mesh removals are ‘revisions’ and I wrote blogs about how doctors are told to handle mesh complications. This is extremely important! Just because you go to a doctor and link your settlement pay out to getting what you believe is complete removal, I know for a fact that this is NOT happening to many women. You should also know that many doctors do NOT have the skills to remove it all and women have almost bled to death from those who practice on them. But how much time you dedicate to your health issues will for sure be the most important time you will spend on anything in your life and only you can do it.

19 Comments

  1. Ginger

    Linda I know Dr Raz is wonderful but even if Mesh can be removed there is still no guarante no pain after …so maybe some believe it is not worth the surgery to remove …. I was told by many Dr that the kind of anchors I have can not be removed but maybe arm cam be released …

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    1. Linda (Post author)

      Ginger, I have to write a blog about that. No there is never any guarantee of course, but you don’t know what happens over many years, but I do. My next blog will tell you. Don’t believe other doctors. If arms are released then they can travel and work their way to places that do terrible damage. Once the mesh is cut, it too moves.

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  2. mary k

    Boy you got that right Linda. Arm never should be released they should be removed. A released arm would be like a spear in the retro pubic area.

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  3. Karen Shepherd

    I had the TVT-O and the Prolift+M back in 2010. I’ve had 3 surgeries to remove them. I was told the anchors were left and then I was told they were removed. I don’t belive they were. What exactly are the symptoms of complications from the anchors? I’ve searched and searched and can’t find this anywhere.

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    1. Linda (Post author)

      Karen there are many symptoms and it is difficult to say for sure. The best thing to do is read this blog first to understand the type of mesh you have and if it has anchors for sure. Many of the issues arise with TVT-O types because they cause severe pain in the obturator nerve. But they can be dangerous to remove if the wrong person tries it. I had TVT and I had leg pain form early on which increased over time. Leg, groin pain are extremely good signs.

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  4. Andrea

    I had my mesh removed. It took (2) very good doctors to do it. They said they could not remove the arms. Sex is painful for me.

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    1. Linda (Post author)

      Andrea I have heard this many times and most doctors don’t remove the anchors because it can be very dangerous. This is why I wrote the blog. Until the anchors are removed you will continue having pain. Pease plan to go to UCLA, you will be glad you did.

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  5. Ericka

    I read the article I would love to get these anchors out but I do not have the funds to go to Ucla and my Dr states its to risky for him to take them out

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    1. Linda (Post author)

      I don’t know who you doctor is but he should never have put anything in you that he knows is ‘too risky’ to remove.

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  6. Shari

    Thanks for insite, you are right, we commoners have no idea. I had tvt secur and thought it was all removed until ongoing case enlightened me

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  7. Virginia "Ginger"

    This is a great info site. I’ve read many. I’ve had two mesh/sling and bladder surgeries…one in 2008 and one in 2014. Same OBGYN doctor did them both, different Urinary doctor for the bladder however. When I asked my doctor if they can be removed he laughed and said they can’t be removed siting the mesh gets mixed up with tissue and is too hard to remove (one surgery placement over the other or so my first bladder mesh placement doctor and current Urinary doctor said). I’m in one of the Boston Scientific lawsuits. I’m just now looking into seriously having all this stuff removed. But at present trying to resolve a simple meniscus surgery failure in 2015. Unable to walk well..have every day, serious pain mixed up with the pain and other side affects from the mesh/sling/bladder surgeries. One thing at a time, right! Money is an issue. Only have Medicare and a good supplemental insurance. I’m a Los Angeles native but live in Navada, near Reno. My aunt had mesh removed at UCLA several years ago. She seems to be doing fine. They got all of it. She did almost died though. This site’s info is helpful. Glad I found it. Good luck to every one trying to get well from this awful stuff. Keep getting educated!

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    1. Linda (Post author)

      Ginger overall health can be a huge factor in these surgeries. I know women who would have died had they not had mesh removal. Some had heart issues and no doctor would have attempted this, but Dr. Raz did and saved their lives. Many had removal 5 or 6 years ago and they are still alive. Inflammation is a huge problem and heart issues can be rampant over a long period. That is why he does what he does. One reason to have it removed is this. http://www.meshangels.com/inflammation-heart-disease/

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  8. Lisa Morton

    I saw Dr. Baxter, an associate of Dr. Raz at UCLA. He removed the mesh but left the anchors. I was told they could not be removed. I am 3 weeks post-op and I continue to have the same severe pain in my buttock and leg. Thoughts?

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    1. Linda (Post author)

      My thoughts are that he is not experienced in removing them and I would send an email to Dr. Raz and ask. I will send you his email.

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  9. K’Chelle

    My first mesh implant was Retropubic bone anchored using Repliform mesh by Boston Scientific. I have been told by several surgeons the anchors imbedded in my pubic bone can not be removed but chiseled down. Sadly that’s not going to help and now I have inflammation and infection caused by the bone anchors. (Along with erosion) Although Repliform is supposed to be “organic” and absorbed by my body it appeared on the transliable I had showing 2 mesh implants not long ago in 2018 (with that procedure in 2000) TVT Gynecare (2003) was placed on top of the Repliform. I don’t understand why bone anchors were used since the mesh was known to be absorbed then why use the bone anchors? Of course the foreign body reaction to the Repliform and anchors is also an issue. I began researching more into the why and how about the retropubic using bone anchors and was surprised to find a well known mesh removal surgeon invented this procedure and had “abandoned” per notes that type of procedure. Also why wasn’t the first mesh removed before the TVT was implanted?

    How can I find out if I was part of the two companies which used cadavers without consent and the cadavers that were not tested for anything ie; diseases, autoimmune, etc, prior to their donation?

    I hope you’re able to find out answers and or direct me to someone that can answer my questions and concerns. The TVT Gynecare and the Repliform along with bone anchors have not been removed. I am seeking a Surgeon in hope of answers and possible removal of all mesh and hopefully anchors if it’s in the best interest for my health.

    I have not had luck with others referred to me to discuss the Repliform. One never responded and another is outside the United States. I am unable to call internationally. If there are others that have experienced this or any part of this I’d appreciate hearing from them.

    I appreciate you and your blog! I’m blessed to have found you and your information! I look forward to hearing from you. Thank you!

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    1. Linda (Post author)

      K’Chelle The only person I know who has removed any anchors, Is Dr. Ra at UCLA. Sadly he is now partly retired and his skills are from many, many years of surgery. I do not know what will happen if the anchors are chiseled down. Obviously the reaction you are having, will not go away if this happens. I do know for sure that Boston Scientific did teach surgeons on cadavers, because they did have videos on line. Of course after I share the link, they took it down. I would still contact UCLA because I don’t have any answers for you. That is why I sold my car to go there for mesh removal and sold other things to be able to do it.

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      1. K’Chelle

        Linda, A few areas in question still are the following:
        I don’t understand why bone anchors were used since the mesh was known to be absorbed then why use the bone anchors? Your opinion? If you have the link can you send it to me please? Maybe that will answer the Repliform questions.
        And Repliform is supposed to be “organic” and absorbed by my body it appeared on the transliable. Your opinion?
        Any input on:
        How can I find out if I was part of the two companies which used cadavers without consent and the cadavers that were not tested for anything ie; diseases, autoimmune, etc, prior to their donation?
        Lastly,
        I began researching more into the why and how about the retropubic using bone anchors and was surprised to find a well known mesh removal surgeon invented this procedure and had “abandoned” per notes that type of procedure. Have you researched this and know who? Wouldn’t it be difficult to go to a Dr who came up with the procedure to begin with? Your opinion?

        Thank you again for your input! Yes I’ve sold most everything so I can get my health back. I’m needing answers to these questions before I’m able to make a decision.

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  10. Stacie Beezley

    Hi just sitting here wondering if the anchors are causing me problems, had 2 mesh removals October. Having a lot of pain right side near my ovaries. Sometimes the left, I’m seeing Dr Kim at Ucla. My app is the 19th. She said she removed 90 % and would have to go in the front , I was hoping still healing from surgery, let’s hope so.

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    1. Linda (Post author)

      Stacie, you did not mention if it was TVT or TOT. TOT anchors are difficult to remove and if they have migrated near a blood vessel, it could be even worse. I do know she will do all she can to help you and will tell you if there is any danger.

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