Bladder Slings & UTI Infections

It really makes me sad to hear so many women who are suffering from continuous bladder infections from bladder slings and using antibiotics to TRY to stop them.  If you understand anything at all about any drug, you must also understand that over a period of time they either stop working altogether, or you will be given many types of the same thing without good result.  You will become frustrated and will feel constantly unwell.  Infections make you feel irritable, out of sorts, headachy and upset.  What the real problem is, it is the sling that is causing these complications.

Sling removal is complicated and not easy and takes time to get an appointment with a good surgeon, in fact if a doctor is questioned about removal a good one will tell you outright that slings are not meant to be removed.  Your immediate thoughts are “Why do they put them in if this is the case?”  Believe me it continues to cross all our mind but this blog is about self help.My sling has been in well over two years and from day one, I had non stop UTI infections.  Antibiotics did not touch them and I felt ill all the time.  My daughter hates to see me living unwell so she began to research.  I can tell you this much.  Once I began taking this supplement, within a month I did not have an infection and my tests were clear.  I have lived on this this supplement without complications or side affects, only stopping it once a few months ago and within a month I felt the symptoms reappear.  So I went back to it immediately and have been fine ever since.  I am unable to deal with the pain and complications of my sling without removal, but at least clearing infections helped me somewhat.

I recently talked to a pediatrician neighbor who was shocked I had cleared my infections and she wrote down the name to help her small patients.  There is no magic wand and you have to try this and stick to it to clear the infection to know if it is right for you.  If you are taking other medications, you should check into reactions.  Leave no stone unturned.  This is something that helped me but I cannot guarantee it will help you.

First though, constant use of antibiotics will cause you yeast infections.  This too will make you feel very unwell. This happens because drugs have killed off all the good bacteria that keeps you feeling well and you need to put them back.  To counteract and clear your system you need a really good probiotic.  Not yogurt.  Not a drink with a probiotic in it, but a good probiotic capsule taken daily, and a full time regiment of self help.  You may think it is expensive, but if you were to put the cost of drinks together which are not enough for someone who has a problem, is isn’t costly at all.  You are worth it and you need to get better to do the other things you need to do.

To understand types of probiotics, please go to this link, read and learn and then make a decision of what to buy.  http://www.webmd.com/digestive-disorders/tc/probiotics-topic-overview

Everyone has to think for themselves and often that means taking a plunge and trying something.  My exasperation and decline in health from constant UTI’s left me with the attitude “I will give anything a try”  You have to decide what you want to do.  The inexpensive herb I take every day in capsule form is by Nature’s Way.  It cost no more than $5 for a month’s supply.  You don’t need a mixed product with a costly name and a line of promotion attached to it.  The herb is called Marshmallow Root.  Read up on it and decide for yourself.  Here is a link to help you.

http://www.herbs2000.com/herbs/herbs_marshmallow.htm

I truly believed this product has kept me going all this time and I have not had the immune problems many women have.  I hope it helps you.

UPDATE!
I try to update my blogs if I find a site that can explain more.  I recently found this site about marshmallow root and I loved it.  If you wonder what people did before all these prescription drugs, this will explain about how marshmallow root was used.  I have heard from so many women who have kidney stones after mesh and it took me awhile to realize there is a correlation.  When urine cannot be dispelled, stones can form.  So when you read this article and wonder what ‘grave’ is, it is the old word for kidney stones.  I also loved that this doctor treated his son with marshmallow root.
http://www.woodherbs.com/Marshmallow.html

I have not used this myself but I also found this site about a natural antibiotics.  You may find it very informative.   http://the-health-gazette.com/293/natural-antibiotics

29 Comments

  1. Colleen Stowe

    I was just going to e-mail and ask you about he probiotic’s! You must have been reading my mind!
    Thanks so much Linda, I will be checking out your links.
    Linda in MI

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  2. BETTY

    I use probiotics daily as prescribed by my Boston immunologist. I have a primary imune disease and am on prophylactic antibiotics daily and found the probiotics acidophilus etc helpful in stopping yeast infections.

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  4. SojournerPA

    I started the Marshmallow Root on September 27, 2012. I have had chronic UTI’s ever since TVT-O implant in 2006. I had just had two surgical consults for vaginal mesh erosion and on one was catherized for a “clean catch”. Sometimes a simple exam can bring on an infection, as well as, being catherized. Not too long after these exams, I started to have that familiar sharp pain down center of abdomen and thought, “here we go again”. Then I read your blog about this supplement. It’s working! So far no infection (knock on wood)!. I have tried many things over the years, cranberry tablets, Ester- C, and follow the Interstital Cystitis diet (even though I have not been officially diagnosed with IC). I think it was a Catch-22 with the cranberry supplement and Vitamin C because they make your urine more acidic to prevent bacteria from adhering to the bladder but if your bladder is sensitive as mine is then the higher acid level causes pain. I would have to take baking soda and water to acidify the urine to lessen the pain or Pyridium. This Marshmallow Root is a godsend so far. No infections and no bladder irritations. Thank you!

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  5. SojournerPA

    Oops! Correction to prior email. I meant to say, “I would have to take baking soda and water to alkalinize the urine…”

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  6. lavalinda

    I know how you feel. It is a miracle and at first you cannot believe it. I took it for 2 years before my full sling removal surgery at UCLA twelve days ago October 11th 2012 and now I am taking it again to make sure I will be fine. Antibiotics do not work well on me and although I took one I am not allergic to for one week, I knew to take the marshmallow root in -between taking the antibiotic to be on the safe side. Now this testimony will SHOCK you. They told me to stop taking all vitamins ect 2 weeks before my surgery. I take many suppiments to stay well and healthy, and those did not worry me to stop. However to stop Marshmallow root was the hardest, so I hedged and stopped one week before. It took only a couple of days and I felt it come back. By the time I had tests the day before surgery I was so sick and they had to give me a shot of antibiotics to get me well enough for surgery. All I could think of was “Thank God for marshmallow root or I would have been in terrible shape. I am so happy it helped you get better. You should know however, that until the mesh is removed it is only a bandaid. This is because when the did the Urodynamics test on me the day before surgery, I found out why thi was happening. My bladder never emptied and because of that infections continue. In time the infections cannot be cured by any antibiotic and you will die a slow death if nothing is done. Please go to Dr. Raz and get FULL sling removal. Mesh and arms/anchors is full mesh removal. They will tell you it is impossible to remove the arms and that is true if they do not have the skills. They could injure you more if they try. So go where you can get the help and it is done right.

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    1. l smith

      My sister recently had this surgery and now she has an infection..she is being referred to an infectious disease doctor. She has been experiencing the pain that you spoke of. I will share information with her. Thank You

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      1. lavalinda

        I smith, I am going to send you an email and also someone who was close to dying because of infections. She will tell you what happened and how she is now completely well after removal at UCLA.

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    2. Krystye

      Would it be possible to get the Doctors name and address and phone number.
      The one that did the total sling removal.
      Thank you so very much

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      1. Linda (Post author)

        This doctor can do it. http://www.meshangels.com/dr-kim-ucla/

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  7. SojournerPA

    That is incredible that in just one week off the marshmallow root your bladder pain/infection would be back. But then again, as soon as I started the supplement my sharp bladder pains/twinges stopped and I have not developed an infection. Amazing really. Forever grateful to you for this piece of advice. It’s so nice not to have the constant irritation in the urethra as well.

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    1. lavalinda

      I am trying to get Dr. Raz to understand the importance of this little herb. Someone took a video of me talking about it and I am going to mail it to him.

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  8. Sereda Parker

    Linda can you Email me your address and i will make some copies and send them to you to look at. Thank You

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  9. Eliza

    My sister-in-law (62) has been referred to Dr. Shull in Temple, TX. for repair after a mini arc sling was only partially removed. The Dr lied: told her he had successfully removed the entire sling 4 months after the installation. Painful complications have remained relentless for these past three years.
    Last week she was again given hope by a new doctor who told her that the affected part of her vagina and bladder may have to be removed but that the vaginal tissue appears in good condition for success with this rebuilding type of surgery and was referred to Dr Bobby Shull with strong recommendations.
    Does anyone have any comments/reviews on Dr. Shull’s work or evaluated his skills relative to Dr Raz for this type of condition? Having tests and the procedure in Texas would be more convenient, but not at the expense of greater risk of further reducing her quality of life. Her marriage was effectively destroyed, she already suffers many of the problems described here and had given up all hope after unsuccessfully trying hormones, physical therapy, and treatments for interstitial cystitis which ‘coincidentally’ manifested after the sling. (I’m going to bring her some marshmallow tea tomorrow hoping it will give her at least partial relief. )
    This is an enlightening blog – thank you all.

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    1. lavalinda

      I left this doctor’s name here because you are asking about his skills, and not determining that this doctor did anything wrong. However, if anyone leaves a bad comment it could be detrimental to this blog, so I would have to remove them. So I do not think this will help you. I have never heard of this doctor as having skills that could remove the entire sling with arms/anchors and I live in Texas, but I could be wrong. Look to the right and print out questions to ask the doctor before you have removal. Take them when you see him. Mention Dr. Raz name as well and see the response. Most doctors know of him and they should be aware how good he is. One woman told me when she mentioned his name, the doctor told her if you can get in with him, he is the best. After listening to hundreds of women who went to doctor’s with these questions, no doctor answered he could do it and had done many. In Houston I am not aware of any doctor who can do it without leaving mesh, arms/anchors in and that is why I went to UCLA. It is hard to do I know but she will have the best results. I was determined not to have surgery after surgery to remove it all because I know how this takes your body down. Also many surgeons take many, many hours to do the surgery. That too is hard on your body. My mesh was caught up in my nerves and muscles so Dr. Raz had to make an incision across my pelvic area and untangle the mesh. Even then it only took two hours and I was no more nerve damaged than what had happened before surgery. That is skill.

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      1. Charlene

        My sister had a bladder sling surgery in 2008. She has been in severe pain for the two months. We have gone to five doctors.

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        1. lavalinda

          Charlene I did send you an email but have not heard from you. I will do my best to help you.

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  10. Sue Bradshaw

    I had bladder sling surgery approximately 8 years ago. Six weeks after the initial surgery, I had my first of many UTIs. I now have four colonized bacteria in my bladder. I either am getting an infection, have an infection, or getting another infection. Any of the four colonized bacteria will be the culprit. Since each urine test now requires a culture for antibiotic sensitivity, I have to wait days for treatment to begin or being treated with the wrong medicine initially. I have become septic two years ago. I have my family doctor and an infectious disease doctor in my hometown. I went to Richmond to get tests from a Urology Specialist. The infections are monthly with the cutting feeling in my lower abdomen, incontinence, and pain over my right kidney. I need help ASAP but do not know where to start. I feel unwell all the the time. I will try anything and going to get the marshmellow root tomorrow. Any suggestions.

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    1. lavalinda

      Sue I know someone who was just like you. She had it removed at UCLA over a year ago and has been well ever since. I will give her your contact information.

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  11. Julie

    This is ME! UTI after UTI after UTI for about three years! I had the TVT sling installed into thousand seven and three years ago in 2011 the problems began and haven’t gone away. Thanks to your blog I called the doctors at UCLA, but Dr. Raz has a 3 month wait to see him, Just for the initial consult. I’m taking a leap of faith and seeing Dr. Kim who has studied under him. I see that you have her name posted here and I’m wondering if you’ve heard any more success stories from patients of hers. Her “Healthgrade” isn’t as good as Dr. Raz and I’m wondering if I should suck it up and wait. I really don’t want to add I’m unable to work and have had such a loss of income over the last three years. I want to be well!!

    Also wondering if you could give us the latest update on how you feel. Any complications after having the mesh removed? Any infections? What is your success? I’m desperate to hear some good news. This is consuming me! Thank you so much for this blog. It has sent me in the right direction to getting this mesh out! I’m holding out hope.

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    1. lavalinda

      Julie, she is an excellent surgeon although does not have the many years of experience Dr. Raz does. However, she will consult with him if your case is very unusual.

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    2. lavalinda

      Julie I am now doing well in some respects but my nerve damage is long term. I do update at times and I am now trying a new treatment. Many women move forward without nerve damage, but I am not one of them. Dr. Kim is an excellent surgeon.

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  12. valerie

    I have had a bladder sling about 10 years ago with no problem. However, this year I have had one UTI after another, most are termed e-coli pan-resistant UTI’s I am now on my 7th antibiotic in 3 months which is the top of the line for oral antibiotic (they tell me) and if it occurs again, I will have to go into the hospital for short-stay IV antibiotics. I am extremely interested in the complications from bladder slings, and in the information about marshmallow treatment. Is it completely necessary to have the bladder sling removed? Can I keep it at bay with marshmallow?
    And by the way, is there a doctor in Seattle who does a removal?

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    1. lavalinda

      Valerie, some women it begins immediately while others, five, seven and ten years later. Please go out to UCLA and get it removed within the next few months. You are at risk for sepsis if the antibiotics no longer work and even IV antibiotics will only work short term until they stop working. Marshmallow root will only help if there is no abscess in the mesh area. You may have a discharge with a smell. As the infections worsen women tell me they smelled like rotting meat. That is the sepsis setting in, so get a plan to do something about it soon. I do not know of any doctors who can remove it all safely except at UCLA although many tell you they can. Many will do a partial removal but within 3 to 6 months you will get worse.

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  13. iveta

    Please, is there any lady, who had to have urethra or bladder removed becoase the meh? This surgery is waiting on me and I am scare. if you can, please write me, thank you.

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  14. Lis mckay

    I had TVT inserted 7 years ago. Initially I had a lot of trouble. The 12months ago it’s started again. 4 months ago I had a vaginal erosion repaired and felt great. It did not last. UTI. Have set in with a vengeance and are resistant to most antibiotics. I now have chronic pain and know without a doubt the remnant is damaging my bladder. So now I see 3. Urologist. 3cystoscopy on 5 months then I have to wait for a urogynocologist to take the rest out. That can’t come soon enough. I feel for you all.

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    1. lavalinda

      Lis there are few doctors who can remove it all safely without causing you more damage. I hope you found one.

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  15. donna

    just a quick e-mail answer will be fine. What are the “arms” of a bladder sling? I have had 2 removed. And third surgeon is finding 2 arms on each side to dissect out.
    thanks!

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    1. Linda (Post author)

      Donna there isn’t a quick answer. You need to look up the patent information on the type that was put in you and there is generally a drawing to show how it is made. They are all made differently. The fastest way is to go to Google and put in the name of the sling, then add images. Then you can usually see things faster. I hope this helps.

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